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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 04:59:00 -
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You know I never liked this guy. He's an obvious sociopath, he has laughed and others tears for so long he can't even comprehend the irony of his own predicament and the fallout thereof.
When asked on Funky Bacon if he thought the ban against him was deserved he answered "I'm fine to take it."
In state of the goons his comment was "I was ******, but we will go on".
The truth is, he doesn't think the ban was a reasonable thing for CCP to do TO HIM. He doesn't really feel more sorry for the victim of HIS actions than he feels for HIMSELF, completely forgetting that the fallout he's currently going through is a result of HIS actions.
After an apology he seems to consider that the matter is closed, however as the media cannot apologise for labeling him a "cyber bully" that will be an ongoing tear-fest for him.
Now cyber bully is a term used mostly in america for teens convicing each other to kill themselves, or hurt themselves over the internet. His entire claim that this doesn't hold true for him is that neither he nor the guy he did this same act to were teens.
However, the fact the guy was already depressed and fighting suicidal thoughts, doesn't seem to enter into this definition at all.
This only continues the thoroughly disgusting behaviour he entered into on the night, his ego driving haphazardly through the world not wishing to be hindered by the awful pubbies that he has to put up with.
This guy is a turd, I can't believe all the goons cannot see through his perception management routines.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:01:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:*groans*
Yeah, sorry, had to be done ;)
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:02:00 -
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Talamant wrote:Too long, didn't read.
Words are good for you.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:06:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Haven't we had enough of this?
You haven't got anything new to add to the discussion, there are plenty of existing threads for this discussion, and you don't even present your argument cogently.
Please find the other threads on this issue (hint: there is at least one in the EVE Information Portal).
IBTL.
There are no threads on his CURRENT actions.
The interview was last night, I'd say that's a new addition to the discussion.
As far as presenting "arguments" I'm not, I'm presenting FACTS.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:51:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:You know I never liked this guy. He's an obvious sociopath, he has laughed and others tears for so long he can't even comprehend the irony of his own predicament and the fallout thereof. You have an issue. There is a very big difference between The Mittani (Leader of the Goonswarm and in-game villian) and the person behind the character.
This is the perception "wonderful" team working overtime.
The problem is - there isn't much of a difference. There's a name difference. There's no personality difference. We KNOW this.
If anything, the alchohol let his guard down, he sat there doing what he does best. Whether it's Alex/Mittani, it's all his creation and all his responsibility. Trying to shirk that responsibility by saying "that's not really ME" then which human being is it ?
He apologies rang false - even to the victim, and he can't even admit that the ban was fair play by CCP.
I think this shows EXACTLY who he is - and nothing to do with the mittani "character".
I don't even see this argument. You're suggesting that the leader of goonswarm ... is a roleplayer?
Ok good luck with that one.
He's playing the "evil overlord of goonswarm" ?
Please dude, that insults everyone's intelligence in SO many ways.
He's just being.... him.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 06:06:00 -
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Sister Rhode wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:You know I never liked this guy. He's an obvious sociopath, he has laughed and others tears for so long he can't even comprehend the irony of his own predicament and the fallout thereof.
Outside of the fanfest debacle, provide some sort of evidence to support this. Sure he's made some people cry for losing ships, isk balances, dread caches, space and trusted directors in-game, but all of that is a part of Eve, and encouraged by the game's culture. You are making claims that Alex is a horrible person in real life, which is 100% unfounded and completely ridiculous. You don't even know the guy.
That WAS amazingly enough - real life. Most of what we do here, is actual people talking to other ... actual people. The relationships we form here are real enough - even if the gameplay isn't.
If you logged into game tomorrow and got harassed in game constantly by your own corp or alliance and there was no let up.
You'd not leave because you're playing a role and who cares amirite ? Or would you do the human thing and just up and leave ?
Don't get me wrong, I don't want eve to change. However, I think certain cultures need to. I don't think the rest of us need to subject ourselves to what's "normal in america".
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 06:10:00 -
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Basically, the point is...
There's a huge difference between apologising for something because it's the right thing to do and you're truly repentant.
And apologising for something because it's politically expedient.
It's only on further analysis of the person's disposition toward any punishment that you can tell the difference.
His inability to say that the ban was justified kind of speaks volumes.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 06:14:00 -
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I think the day before yesterday I made a post saying I don't think they should ban him...
After the eve radio interview however, I think they probably should've made it permanent.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 06:15:00 -
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Jet Aeon wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Spring Blue wrote:Being drunk is NOT an excuse, and as Mittani is a lawyer he knows this, but still used it as part of his apology. Good thing he did not use it as an excuse then, right? The Mittani wrote:There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine. See, people make judgements without knowing what really happened. You get the basics wrong - how much else are you wrong about? I don't know, but judging by your rant I'm guessing quite a bit. The underlined text is where Mittani tries to use alchol as an excuse. No he doesn't come right out with it, but does imply it. It's a tactic that lawyers love to use. Coincidence? I thnk not. 
Those who know the difference between right and wrong don't need the law.
Those who have the law do not need to know the difference between right and wrong.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 06:16:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:
And you do not know the guy. You are making a judgement; one that looks incorrect based off the comments from people who actually do know him.
Anyway, I'm tired of trying to reason with people like you. You have an axe to grind and I don't need to convince you otherwise - because not even the CEO of CCP or The Wis himself coming on here to tell you to move on will help you get over whatever is making you this unreasonable.
What axe is that? That interview changed my mind about his ban altogether.
He should be gone for good.
Your reasoning that we need to know personally every player that does anything wrong in order to make a judgement call on his/her actions and when listening to an interview with them in it still can't make that judgement call is spurious.
Why would ANYONE ANYWHERE listen to radio or TV interviews if this were the case ?
You're ridiculous.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.04.01 06:31:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:What axe is that? That interview changed my mind about his ban altogether. See above about, for example, the alcohol. You don't have a clue what is going on. But let's see something. I cancelled two of my three accounts as a protest against the lack of CCP response to this issue. Beyond bitching on a forum, what have you done to communicate your displeasure to CCP? Or are you just a forum warrior out to get the Mittani?
I actually sent email to the CCP public affairs guy. I won't be unsubbing for something someone else did out of the game ... Perhaps you're confusing in-game with out of game ?
I don't give a crap about Mittani, I'd really like to see CCP come down hard on this kind of behaviour however.
Frankly, 1 month ban for an unrepentant cyber-bully who thinks as long as people like you defend him that he can do or say anything he likes ... is lame.
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